sitting and sleeping problem

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sitting and sleeping problem

Postby dodd » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:59 pm

Hi I am new to the site and recently purhased Deans book. I have had back problems for 20 years and recently it became a lot worse when I twisted my back and fell. The area of my back that is sore seem to be the left L4 and L5 area. Over the last 2 months it has become worse. I cant bend down to pick thing up to my left side without more strain being put on the injury. I have problems walking down stairs. Sitting is difficult as is finding any comfortable sleeping position in bed despite using pillows to support me. I experience cramps when getting out of bed. Is there anything I can do? Ive had x rays and a CT scan which showed that my discs were not to badly damaged. Any advice would be appreciated.


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Postby Seann » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:14 am

Hey dodd-
I was at wits end after 6 years of pain. I'm not sure I could do 20, so kudos to you.
The only real advice I can give you is to be sure you read the book carefully and follow directions to the 'T'. Stick with the beginning stretches and only do what is comfortable. You should notice some improvement in pretty short order, but don't give up if you don't get immediate results; you've fgot 20 years of problems to fix. This won't happen overnight. I've been on the program almost a month now and am just at the point where I feel I might be able to go on to level 2.
That's about all I can really offer at this point. Stick with it, stay positive and keep us posted.
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Postby dodd » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:20 pm

Hi Seann

Thanks for the reply. Im a bit unsure as to what Im treating. Yesterday I saw a physio who said my sacral illiac joint is out of alignment. On the other hand the osteopath who I was seeing had said a small bulging disc in the S1, L5 might be resposible Are the exercises in the book O.K for either of these condition.

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Postby Seann » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:31 pm

From what I gather the program is good for most issues including bulging discs. If you haven't done so you should read the articles in the Articles section of this sight. There's a lot of good info there.

Your situation sounds a lot like what I was going through; a whole lot of mights and maybes without any real answers. The last diagnosis handed me was degenrative disc disease, but who knows?

I say go for it. I think you'll know right away if your doing more damage than good. I can attest to the positive results I've experienced, but like I mentioned in my previous post, I'm certain that not pushing it and doing what's comfortable are critical to this routine. Especially in people who have a long history of problems.

Take care. Let us know how things work out.
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Postby karen » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:51 am

Hi dodd,
couldn't help but notice your note about sacroiliac pain, you may have read my previous post, my PT says I have the same problem. Pain is L side lower spine and L buttock mainly, occasionally back of and outer part of L leg and sometimes groin. No numbness in leg at all. Not sure if this is SI pain, am sceptical of all diagnoses I've been given so far, but my reading about SI pain seems to fit in with symptoms. Are yours similar ?
After 3 weeks of exercises the pain is less for sure and my back is feeling much stronger. Have found a sacral belt is the best for pain relief, sits around the top of my pelvis and squishes me together, SI pain is supposedly when the joint is too mobile. Also am going to do the exercise recommended by Bill (in my last post about SI strain), when I manage to get hold of a BP cuff.
Not sure if this will help you, but I've found reading about other people's symptoms and treatments so far has helped me deal with mine.
Cheers, Karen

Postby randolph » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:39 am

Hi Dodd

Have you investigated the possibility that you may be suffering from TMS (tension myositis syndrome - see wikepedia summary)? Some folks with chronic pain issues (like me) have received great help from applying Dr John Sarno's recommendations. His books are cheap and widely available in libraries and new/used book stores.

I received great help during the early, acute stages of my recovery with PT (including the RYB program), and knocked out the lingering, chronic pain utilizing Dr Sarno's recommendations.

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Postby dodd » Wed May 23, 2007 2:06 am

Hi everyone

Sorry its taken such a long time to get back. I found out that my problem is my left hip rather than my lower back. After having an MRI for my back and then an MRI for my hip I found that I have a "subchondral insufficincy fracture over the femoral head with associated marrow oedema and mild joint effusion". I saw a back surgeon today and he said I may or may not have avascular necrosis in the joint. At the very least I have osteo arthritis. If I have avascular necrosis Id require a hip replacement. I can only find out if the later is true If I have surgery, otherwise I just have to wait for things to get better than have another MRI in two months.

On the plus side I have had phsiotherapy and have had some improvement I can now walk and sit for much longer periods of time.

Im not sure if the back exercises are appropriate as I dont want to agrivate my hip. Apparently exercise is good for osteo-arthritis but possibly not for avascular necrosis. Any advice would be appreciated. Back specialists I have noticed tend to be very negative people.


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