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Postby Lauren » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:27 pm

Hi all,

I just joined the forum and downloaded Dean's book. I have already read Sarno's book, and although journaling and digging deeper has done a lot for me psychologically, the pain did not decrease. So, I searched around the web today and "stumbled" onto this forum..

Put off seeing doctor for a long time and just kept irriating my nerve. So, I decided to get an appointment with an orthopedic doctor just before Christmas, and she ordered an MRI. I have a large bulging disk and have a referral to a spine surgeon. Fortunately, I can sit as long as I like without any pain or tingling - just can't stand straight or walk around.

For the first time, I see from Dean's book that it may take awhile for the nerve to heal. THat's good to know since I'm the type of person who will do too much too soon. My PT says not to do anything that hurts. Well, it's good to see that many others have gotten over this pain and returned to a normal life. I miss activity and walking. I am also encouraged to hear that herniated disks can often retreat on their own.

I'll let you know how I progress.

Postby randolph » Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:29 am

Hi Lauren. Good luck with your efforts, and yes, please keep us posted on your progress.

If you haven't already, before you volunteer for surgery, be sure to go to and read his article A KNIFE IN THE BACK on his experience with back surgery, and subsequent investigation into the back surgery industry.

How long did you work with the TMS diagnosis?

Working with RYB got me up and moving so I could work again, and working with Sarno's recommendations finally got me back 100% so I could do more than what I just HAD to do, without fear of relapse.

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Postby Lauren » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:07 am

Hi Randolf,

I have been working on the Sarno stuff for about 2 1/2 months. My MRI showed a large herniated disk strongly impinging on my right nerve on L5.
My husband and I finally looked at the films on Monday night and I could see what's going on. I only have pain and tingling when I stand up straight; I can sit all day long without even a twinge, and if it were deprived oxygen to my muscles, then I would feel cramping and pain most of the time.

I started being able to stand a bit longer around Christmas, right before the MRI. I downloaded Dean's book and began doing the exercises - except the Cobra... can't arch my back yet without my foot and leg getting tingling and pins/needles. Both my orthopedic doctor and PT said that I can do anything as long as it doesn't cause symptoms. There are a lot of things I can do. as long as my back is bent forward and not arched.
I started sitting up straight and doing the breathing exercises. That seemed pretty good.

However, the good news is that I am feeing a bit better each day and can sleep with my legs straight now as long as I have a pillow under my butt.
Yesterday, I swam in the PT's 98 degree pool on my back and side for 45 mintues without any discomfort. I am finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Everyone says surgery is only a last resort, and since I don't have any severe symptoms, I'm determined not to let anyone cut me open.

The neat thing is that my husband said last night that he wants to do the exercises in Dean's book with me on a regular basis so that he doesn't end up with problems. My husband sits all day at work. So, I'm really, really glad to have come across this forum and website.

I'll tune in with my progress as I do. Here's to back health!!!

Postby randolph » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:01 am

Lots of good news there, Lauren ... especially that you've got the enthusiastic support of hubby :D

Your care providers have recommended letting your pain show you how far to push yourself (basically: pain starts, activity stops). I used the same guideline for 15 months, and regained enough function to be able to go back to work .... but somewhere along the line ... developed a fear of challenging the pain barrier, and developed a complacency that I was lucky to regain even partial ability ... just accept my limitations, I had 40 good years, don't risk relapse, etc. Being familiar with Sarno's work, you'll recognize one of the symptoms of TMS is an extreme sensitivity to that pain barrier. What I'm wondering here is how we can protect from allowing a sensible respect of the pain during the acute stages of sciatica (as your care givers recommend) to morph into an unconscious, and unnecessary, acceptance of permanent limitation. In my case, I didn't even see it happening; if I hadn't encountered Sarno's work, I probably would still be accepting a partial disability as all I could ever expect for the rest of my life (instead of recovering 100% as I have the last month). Realizing that there was a great possibility that, after 15 months, I was surely physically healed, meant the pain was probably psychosomatic ... and made me realize, somehow, I'd been duped by my brain. Just wondering aloud here, and wondering about your thoughts on this, since you are familiar with the TMS theories.

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Postby Lauren » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:21 am

Yep, I hear ya! I agree that one can become afraid of the pain, so I'll be sure and take that into consideration. Today I am doing laundry, stretching, and moving around the house in pretty good condition. One day I got so frustrated that I just ran in place as fast as I could for a few minutes, and it didn't seem to hurt me.

I am the type to overdo as soon as I feel the least bit good. I'm 51, and in very good shape for my age, and feel a bit embarrassed by being unable to get around like I usually do. I do believe that psychosomatic problems exist in me. I had a rough childhood but am genrally a happy person (a goodist) according to TMS theory.

As I started to enter my menopause stage, I began to have all kinds of new health problems, and I hate being sick, but couldn't ignore physical problems that I wished would go away. I began having breathing problems and electric sensations in my hands when something would make me jump or when I'd take a deep breath. Went to doctors for several months for the "asthma" that I had not had in 35 years. It was exaserbated by stress and air conditioning. None of the medication was working. My GP thought it wasn't true asthma, and I agreed. As my sciatica came into focus, my asthma symptoms lessened. Sounds like TMS to me. So, I began journaling and found a ton of surpressed anger. So, I cancelled many of my obligations that were stressing me out.

That helped a lot! But the sciatica got worse and worse. Then I began losing reflexes in my foot... bad thing, so I've decided to work the problem from several angles: continuing journaling, exercising and PT, doing whatever I can during the day, and spending fun time with friends.

I'm a professional artist, and you would not believe how stressful it can be! Galleries begin to treat you like a manufacturing plant if you're not careful.

Also, one other thing - this is already long.... I've come to the conclusion that Estrogen is a psychological protective hormone for women. It's not that PMS causes anger, it's just that Estrogen masks anger when it's present. So, when a women goes through Menopause, she begins to re-evaluate her life and without Estrogen, she gets darned angry. She also had a mid-life (really late life) crisis because she is angry about entering the final phase of life without having resolved so many things.

That's just a theory I have. No way to test it though.

OK, this is long enough. I've gotta get back to work for a bit!!!
Thanks for listening.

Improving rapidly

Postby Lauren » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:16 am

Just want everyone to know that I've been doing the exercises in RYB... I can do the Cobra as well now, and I'm improving day by day. My appointment with the spine specialist is tomorrow. However, I'm feeling faily confident now that I can walk and stand for a half hour with little pain or tingling. When the tingling does come on, I just bend over for a minute, and then I'm good for another 15 minutes or so.

This may not seem significant, but before Christmas, I could not stand or walk at all without my leg and foot numbing with tingling (eventually pain).
I'm a fairly active person, so it was exciting to learn that movement helps one heal.


Postby cygnet » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:02 pm

Hi Lauren,

I hope you'll check back in and let us know how it goes. I'd like to hear how your healing progresses.

Good luck and feel better soon.

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Continuing on right track

Postby Lauren » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:30 pm

Yes, I am continuing to improve. Remembering to do the exercises once I feel better is the main thing. I'm able to get around quite well and feel stronger. Still have a bit of tingling, but it usually only lasts for 10 seconds or so.

I do think that stretching and strengthening my back and ab muscles has taken pressure off the nerve. Haven't had a second MRI, so I can't say what's happening with the herniated disk, but I can say that whatever I'm doing, it's going well.

Thanks all for your support. Now, in addition to Sarno's book, I am recommending "Rebuild Your Back".

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