Posture re-education says stop RYB its not good for me?

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Posture re-education says stop RYB its not good for me?

Postby yannick35 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:42 pm

Well i must admit that i got to her office with a lot on my heart, i have been to the sport clinic now for nearly 6 months.

I have seen the sport doctor that is a total jerk this guy sees arthrosis everywhere even if my x rays where clean and my mri has well.

He refered me to the Sport Physio she did a very good exam and gave me exercise to strenghten my pelvic region.

She notice my C7 jamming all the time but instead giving me exercises for that she sent me to the personal trainer.

The personal trainer gave me exercises for my pelvic and a lot to strenghten the transvers ligaments.

No streching nothing i was mad.

I found the RYB program and find that i can do the advance exercises without to much pain.

Now i just saw the posture re-eduction and she tells me that my knee is more infront then the other one, that my neck is fine but that my C7 jams up.

She also told me that strengthening my pelvic region is not good and that i have to strech it first, she gave me some breathing exercises told me to breath from the stomach.

She also told me that what the physio and personal trainer gave me where not good and then told me to stop doing that, she said i was confused???????

She said that with back pain you have to try everything, but now she said to go to prolotherapy and do her exercises.

SHe said the cobra is ok but she doesnt want me to do anything that will move the pelvic.

I guess i am confused and mad and i really dont want to stop doing the RYB.
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There aint no way i am stopping RYB

Postby yannick35 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:52 pm

Has i understood when i read the book its normal to have unatrual curves in the body.

I cant get this true my head that stopping the strenghtening exercises can be any good for me.

I have worked so hard in the last 4 months strenghtening the pelvic region, the lower abs and now with the complete RYB program everything is complete.

After all who has a perfect posture, what she told me where very minor details to correct.

I am going to incorporate the exercises that she gave me in the RYB.

But there is no way i am stopping the exercises, for me doing so i just a step down.

Lets pray that prolotherapy does something good for me so i can stop seeing all theses quacks
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Postby Flyin Pig » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:05 pm

Hey there Yannick,

Mind if I ask a question?
How long have you been doing the RYB excercises?

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Postby yannick35 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:53 pm

Flyin Pig wrote:Hey there Yannick,

Mind if I ask a question?
How long have you been doing the RYB excercises?

Pig


Its been around 3 weeks now, and i feel good, i mean why should i stop?

To be honest i started feeling great the first week, of course nagging pain is not gone 100% but the streching and decompression are amazing.
I have 2 discopathy at L4L5 and L5S1 i am sure that with the proper RYB exercises i can rehydrate theses disks they are not gone at all and still very thick, i just lost the water inside them.

Now with the inversion table i get moderate results but combined with the cobra, the cat, the hip shrughs, and the streching i am sure that i am going to rehydate for sure.

Now the women is asking me to stop this and use only the inversion table, when i told her about the exercise she told me she had no clue about them.

The RPG women gave me 2 exercises to do, why should i stop doing RYB i have been doing pelvic strenghtening exercises for 4 months now.

Sport medecin didnt even give me streching.

Dean is right so called professional are not there to make you feel better they are there to suck up your money.

RYB is where its at and i guess i just lost the remaining ounce of faith i had in any therapy after yesterday.

Now prolotherapy is next and i do plan on combining this with RYB.

The evaluation she gave me makes no sense, that my weight is all standing on one leg, sure i had one leg infront of the other, plus that is 80$ per session she wanted to book me 4 weeks straight.

I see a lot of people with very bad posture that have no pain at all.
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Postby Bill P » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:16 am

Yannick,

What discipline does the woman practice that recommended you stop all the "Rebuild Your Back" exercises? Is she an MD, DC, PT, OT?

Specifically, I would want to know, in detail, why your health care professional told you to stop all "Rebuild Your Back" exercises with the exception of the cobra. There may in fact be a good reason not to perform the exercises in the short term, but unless she can give you a full explanation behind her reasoning, I would not stop doing something that is making you feel better. By the way, if her reply to your question is "because I say so", this is not a sufficient explanation; even if she is an MD.

One red flag I do see from your post is the fact that she doesn't want you to move your pelvis. Unless you put your midsection in a cast, it will naturally move all day long. Without properly strengthening this region, all movement throughout the day becomes nothing more than a continual "wear & tear" process on the back.

In your initial post on this topic, you stated that the re-education person said "that with back pain, you have to try everything". Without a doubt, that was the worst reply from a health care professional I have ever heard. The training of someone in the back care field should include much, much more than this "shot in the dark" approach. If her training hasn;t given her a starting point, then you may as well take suggestions from the next person you meet on the street; at least you won't have to pay them $80 per session.It doesn't sound as though you are confused, but instead the confusion lies with the medical professionals who are advising you are giving you conflicting information. Hope this is of some help.

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Re: Yannick

Postby yannick35 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:39 am

Bill P wrote:Yannick,

What discipline does the woman practice that recommended you stop all the "Rebuild Your Back" exercises? Is she an MD, DC, PT, OT?

Specifically, I would want to know, in detail, why your health care professional told you to stop all "Rebuild Your Back" exercises with the exception of the cobra. There may in fact be a good reason not to perform the exercises in the short term, but unless she can give you a full explanation behind her reasoning, I would not stop doing something that is making you feel better. By the way, if her reply to your question is "because I say so", this is not a sufficient explanation; even if she is an MD.

One red flag I do see from your post is the fact that she doesn't want you to move your pelvis. Unless you put your midsection in a cast, it will naturally move all day long. Without properly strengthening this region, all movement throughout the day becomes nothing more than a continual "wear & tear" process on the back.

In your initial post on this topic, you stated that the re-education person said "that with back pain, you have to try everything". Without a doubt, that was the worst reply from a health care professional I have ever heard. The training of someone in the back care field should include much, much more than this "shot in the dark" approach. If her training hasn;t given her a starting point, then you may as well take suggestions from the next person you meet on the street; at least you won't have to pay them $80 per session.It doesn't sound as though you are confused, but instead the confusion lies with the medical professionals who are advising you are giving you conflicting information. Hope this is of some help.

Bill P


Bill P you are straigh on the money and 110% right in everything you say, yupe she seems confused.

Main reason why she doesnt want me to move my pelvic is because i have a snapping hip joint, and also she gave me breathing exercises to stabilize my upper chest and some posture issues that she noticed in her diagnostic, seems i am putting weight on one leg and my pelvic is out of alignment.

Main problem is that after a year and a half of chiropratic, quit useless i might had i really feel it when my pelvic is out of alignment, and since starting the strenghtening exercises and RYB i notice that my pain in the lower back has decreased a lot. When my pelvic needed to be realigned i really felt the pain and like a vertical bar on the lower back like something was pulling the wrong way. I am sure that even if my pelvic is slightly desaligned by doing the RYB and strenghtening the area the pelvic should eventually slowing start to realign itself?

I might not have helped matters because when i sat down in her office i sort of unloaded some major frustration on her and the medical facility.

saying that the medical doctor i first met saw arthrosis everywhere, he was a total jerk, then refered me to sport PT she did a very good diagnostic of the problem i am having but there lacked exercises and stretches to give me.

Then she refered me to the personal training who gave me 3 exercises to do and no stretches once again.

You are right i didnt stop RYB and even if i am not a certified PT i do beleive that the pelvic region must be strenghten.

Reason she gave me where there is too much curves on my back, and that i do have a pelvic that is slightly out of alignment.

Well by strenghtening the pelvic region its my guess that it will correct this in the long run.

On Sept 5 i am starting prolotherapy, that will strenghten the ligaments and tendon that dont do there jobs properly.

While doing lots of reseach i have found that i have been misguided once again and that ligaments and tendons DO HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE in pelvic stability, so its good to work the muscles but they where not made to support the spin in the first place, what i mean is they where not meant to do this alone.

Prolotherapy will make sure to fix the ligaments and tendons and RYB will work on all other aspects.

At 80$ and comments like this i am not going back to that medical clinic.

The women i saw is a PT since 1992 and a posture re-eduducation since 2001 certified.

I was quit amazed that when i brought a copy of the RYB advance program she didnt know 90% of the exercises in there.

I guess that from the start i lost confidence and that is not good.

Can you beleive that there is a waiting list to get into posture re-education, i am not surprised that there are many cancellations has well.

I want to finish this by saying THANK YOU DEAN and RYB this is the program that gave me relief, and has soon has i have pain i can be sure that this will fix it fast.

If it was not for RYB i would still have a very tight lower back and be confused has hell and frustered by the so called specialist.

I just ordered the book from amazon.com called prolo your pain away, i have read numerous success stories by people who read the book and got prolotherapy treatments done to them.

Very encouraging stuff

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On a side note my mother got an operation back in 1960 has my grand mother back in 1979.

Both where given physiotherapy and a program that really looks like the RYB program.

I guess that back then they really wanted to help people with back pain but today why would they remove your pain, there is so much money in this there is no point in curing people.
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