Considering Book Exercises to follow prolotherapy treatment

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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby thealia » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:22 pm

[quote="yannick35"]I live in Canada, near Montreal.

THe Clinic is in Laval 30 minutes from my house.

I really cant wait to try this if it works for lower back then upper back will follow and maybe a nagging shoulder too.[/quote]

Yannick,

Thanks for the update, I am sure you will get relief with the prolotherapy. It did bring relief both times I had it done to bad I didn't know about the exercises then. I now cannot afford the treatment and here in PA I have not found any doctor who will bill the way you specified.

I started the exercises and was making progress then fell out of hammock last week. Not sure if I should go to doctor and have x-ray just to be sure. I am just doing basic stretches. I have a lot of pain from sitting with old tailbone injury tried wood board someone suggested but it makes bottom at top of leg hurt to much.

Well keep us posted it is nice to share with others.
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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby yannick35 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:40 pm

thealia wrote:
yannick35 wrote:I live in Canada, near Montreal.

THe Clinic is in Laval 30 minutes from my house.

I really cant wait to try this if it works for lower back then upper back will follow and maybe a nagging shoulder too.


Yannick,

Thanks for the update, I am sure you will get relief with the prolotherapy. It did bring relief both times I had it done to bad I didn't know about the exercises then. I now cannot afford the treatment and here in PA I have not found any doctor who will bill the way you specified.

I started the exercises and was making progress then fell out of hammock last week. Not sure if I should go to doctor and have x-ray just to be sure. I am just doing basic stretches. I have a lot of pain from sitting with old tailbone injury tried wood board someone suggested but it makes bottom at top of leg hurt to much.

Well keep us posted it is nice to share with others.


Get yourself to a sport clinic, they wont jerk you around.

You will meet the sport doctor first if you need any exam he will send you then after the results he will refer you to the proper place.

Usually a sport clinic has sport physiotherapy, massage therapy, accuponcture, posture reeducation, osteopathy.

Try it you wont regret it.

For prolotherapy well i guess its my last option now since i have no bone, disk damage.

I do have normal spin degeneration discopathy at L4L5 L5S1 but working hard on the RYB exercise to rehydrate.
I guess that prolo will fix my loose ligaments.

Good luck to you thealia and if you have any questions about sport medecine plese feel free to ask them.
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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby thealia » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:04 pm

Yannick,

Thanks for the reply. I was already considering a pysiotherapist. I will definately look into that suggestion.

thanks for the listening ear. I believe all will go well for you.

Thanks
Thealia
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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby yannick35 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:27 pm

thealia wrote:Yannick,

Thanks for the reply. I was already considering a pysiotherapist. I will definately look into that suggestion.

thanks for the listening ear. I believe all will go well for you.

Thanks
Thealia


Bring the RYB program with you to the physio and make sure that he can follow up on this, i went to many physio that just gave me treatments and no exercises to do to get better. Tens unit infra red and all the other crap.

Try to get an MRI to make sure to see what you have, x rays are so limited, most insurance will cover a big part of the MRI i went private and it cost me 650$ but my insurance covered 450$ on it so its not bad and i got a cd copy of it plus the reading.

Sad to say but many so called professional wont even try to get you better its all about money.

Has Dean says the RYB program is not a one size fits all, you might have to get something fixed in your back before you can start the exercises again.
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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby thealia » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:20 pm

Yannick,

Thanks for the information. I would not have even known to take the RYB along and I will ask for an MRI. I had one in 2007 it showed degenerative disc with some stenosis, but I will take your advice since falling and ask for a new one.

Thanks for your time.

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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby yannick35 » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:29 pm

thealia wrote:Yannick,

Thanks for the information. I would not have even known to take the RYB along and I will ask for an MRI. I had one in 2007 it showed degenerative disc with some stenosis, but I will take your advice since falling and ask for a new one.

Thanks for your time.

Thealia


I have discopathy L4L5 and L5S1 with some lost of signal, but has Dean says in the book that might not even be the cause of the pain.

discopathy is some sort of disk degeneration from what i have seen on my MRI its not that bad.

I do beleive that there is always a way to rehydrate the disk has Dean says in the book even if the so called expert say there isnt.

I found a study on the internet with a 56 year old man that did have some degenerative disk disease after a 2 year glucosamine supplementation one of is disk was full and the other which was very degenerated did not degenerate anymore.
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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby thealia » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:58 pm

Yannick,

Thanks you so much for letting me know this. I was thinking of getting Glucosamine. You just don't know what to spend money on and what not to spend it on. I will try it though since for time being prolotherapy is not an option with expense. Thanks for your support.

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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby yannick35 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:28 pm

thealia wrote:Yannick,

Thanks you so much for letting me know this. I was thinking of getting Glucosamine. You just don't know what to spend money on and what not to spend it on. I will try it though since for time being prolotherapy is not an option with expense. Thanks for your support.

Thealia


For glucosamine allow yourself at least 6 months of steady supplement for it to take effect.

There is a study on the internet of a 56 year old man with degenerative disk disease MRI where taken at 1 year with some results and 2 years after the disk that was mildly degenerated was almost 100% full the other one who was almost totally degenerated did not degenerate anymore.

I buy from bodybuilding.com the brand is universal Animal Flex.

Which is complete.
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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby thealia » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:35 pm

Yannick,

That is good to know I would have probably given up before 6 months.

Thank-you
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Re: far far away Tbone far far away

Postby yannick35 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:20 pm

thealia wrote:Yannick,

That is good to know I would have probably given up before 6 months.

Thank-you
Thealia


But then again there is no garantee, keep us posted on your progress.

I will give you guys some feedback after a couple of prolotherapy treatments and some posture re-education session.

Of course along with daily RYB program
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Yannick's progress

Postby GUEJ » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:59 am

I may have missed subsequent posts, but can you give us an update where you are now (mid-October) with the prolotherapy? I have an appointment in December with one of the few specialists in my area (NJ) and am trying to do as much research as possible beforehand.

Unfortunately, I am in so much pain and back spasming, that any type of stretching seems to always make things worse. I need some relief so I can even start this RYB program. I have tried cortisone shots, nerve blocks, fecet injections, to no avail. I truly believe we need to fix ourselves, but my pain keeps spiraling downward. I know the long term fix is core strengthening. I just need a little relief so I can start down that road! Very interested to see how you are doing.

Thanks so much.
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Postby TBone » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:41 am

Hello Erica,

I will be going for prolotherapy in a week and then again in late November. I don't know how much that helps you now, but hopefully I can offer you some feedback sometime in early December as to how I'm doing.

For what it is worth, I did prolo back in 2002 and 2003 for my lower back. Eventually, my pain was gone and I was able to return to all activities. Like a fool, however, I considered myself cured sometime in 2004 and stopped all the back exercises that I was prescribed. I started lifting weights and running and playing sports. I even put in a patio in 2007 where I was foolishly carrying around 50 lbs. coping units and shoveling limestone. My back eventually went out again in summer 2007.

I tried prolo again in the fall of 2007, but instead of resting in between treatments, I was doing pilates and playing competitive tennis and even some golf. I was treating prolo like it was liposuction! It did help, but I didn't give the area enough time to heal and I hurt it again in December of 2007 while playing tennis.

Like you, I can't seem to get over the hump so that I can start rehabbing. I seem to be able to get to a certain point and then I try to add more exercises and blam...I have a setback. I even tried a physical therapist that specializes in sports injuries. We were doing good for about 3 weeks so she added more exercises and I got hurt again.

It seems that the only option left is prolo and rest. It worked once, I hope it works again.

HTH,
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